Reflection papr 16

Rhetoric is the oldest disciplines in the world; its earliest antecedents can be found in Greece. Greece had two reputations one on which they held high standards and high class, another one was that Greece was suspicious. Plato wasn’t found of the Rhetoric’s and constantly criticized them. Plato stated that the Rhetoric’s were “unintellectual and immoral profession.” Plato thought that the rhetoricians were more concerned with their “appearances” rather than the “substance.” This relates to Roman education because they always wanted to show off, they even gave their schools new libraries just to show that they are the best. The Rhetoricians played a major part in how everyone viewed Plato. You either believed Plato or you believe the Rhetoricians, because both of them had apposing arguments that if you choose to follow one, it would lead your life much differently then regular Greece. Plato believes that “genuine knowledge corresponds to a fixed truth.” In Roman education, they teach you character sound this allows you to speak up when you believe something is right or when it’s wrong. You can also learn to argue your situation. Plato did not want the citizens of Greece to become this way, because then they will question everything. In Greece you should not question the Gods or the way of the rules. Once you question the rules, you no longer believe or live by them. In that case you have created chaos, which is one thing Greece did not need, nor want. Were as the Rhetoricians wanted to use language to persuade his audience and teach them how to persuade other people. “By using language persuasively could naturally lead the listener away from the truth”, was Plato thought. In Roman Education two themes were quaestiones and causae. By practicing these techniques in school, it allows the students to imagine scenarios. For example they are allowed to give advice and be the teacher for a situation. The learning of the Rhetoric had a strong “democratic” and “civilizing” effect. This affects the society because in Roman education it taught the sententiae the division and the colores. In the sententiae, it allows the citizens to argue their statement for and against the apposing side. This allows the citizens to speak up, and stand for what they believe in whether it is right, or whether it is wrong.